Islam is a religion of peace. And cold-blooded murder.
Friday, February 8th, 2008I see that CNN has been doing my job for me again.
CNN: Iraqi women must cover hair, skip blush — or die
BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) — The images in the Basra police file are nauseating: Page after page of women killed in brutal fashion — some strangled to death, their faces disfigured; others beheaded. All bear signs of torture.
The women are killed, police say, because they failed to wear a headscarf or because they ignored other “rules” that secretive fundamentalist groups want to enforce.
“Fear, fear is always there,” says 30-year-old Safana, an artist and university professor. “We don’t know who to be afraid of. Maybe it’s a friend or a student you teach. There is no break, no security. I don’t know who to be afraid of.”
But, obviously, this is just a misinterpretation of the facts, right? We all know that Islam is strictly a religion of peace and wearing a headscarf is a completely voluntary tradition that women choose to take part in, of their own free will, and there is absolutely no coercion involved. Certainly these women aren’t complying out of fear for their lives! Why, that’s preposterous! Right? … Right?
Incidentally, I see that so far, no Muslims have answered my Fabio Challenge. Gee, I wonder why that could be?
EDIT: There now has been a response to the Fabio Challenge. I have responded.
I am closing this post. I encourage anyone who wants to continue “educating the heathens” to register at Rants N Raves. Have fun.
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237 Responses to “Islam is a religion of peace. And cold-blooded murder.”
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Stopper says:
February 8th, 2008 at 7:43 pm
This is a picture of the pedophile prophet Mohammad:
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manal says:
February 16th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
here we gooo the west is being jelous again …probably why they are stealing blessed countrys crude oil and money (such as iraq and saudi arabia). Go to any university and see how a muslim is the brightest out of all the dumb blonds. Americans are freaks which is why they took over the native americans..poor people. Wearing a scarf is covering a symbol of beauty…what we think…at least pornoooo isnt part of believing in jesus. Terrorists are fake muslims and are only licking bushes hairy bum so read the quran before you judge u dumb blonde. Dont wear eyeliner either cuz the egyptions invented it as they were muslims. Islam is just a simplified religion of christianity and Judaism but they are quite greedy and not supportive. Lol how could christians think god had a son without a wife you dumbshits!!! and plus hes invisible so wonder how that worked you bloody idiots!!
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George says:
February 16th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
Jesus said love all,wouldnt that be muslims
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Manal says:
February 16th, 2008 at 2:01 pmI DONT WEAR A SCARF WHY HAVNT THEY KILLED ME!! THATS NOT TRUE IF YOU DONT WANNA WEAR A SCARF THAT UP TO YOU!!
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Manal says:
February 16th, 2008 at 2:03 pmfukkkk d bible lol is that why miley cyrus says im a tru christian bla blaa next day after her interview in Hollywood pictures of her naked apeared all over the internet. Poor jesus…love alll not hateee bastards…..YOUR RACIST TOOO…to black people….im white but anyways
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Manal says:
February 16th, 2008 at 2:08 pmMuslims believe this life is a test which is why we are forbidden from many of the things Chrsitianity accepts. In the second life(heaven or hell) eventually everyone will go to heaven even if they are bad as long as they believe in God(named Allah). This therefore would mean if we try to follow as many things eg..Covering up then we will be awarded in heaven for following God’s words. Following time all you Christians should be Muslims because Islam is a newer rsion of Christianity and Judaism. It may have started in saudi Arabia but they doesnt mean the west cannot fail to follow the order a messenger bought from God. I bet if Jesus was alive when prophet Muhammed was he would have agreed which is why we see Jesus as one of our loyle prophets. You should be ashamed of yourselves!! Love all no matter what Religion what faith.. If you wanna meet up and fight heres my email — divagirlmanal@yahoo.co.uk….Thanks
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Stopper says:
February 16th, 2008 at 2:46 pmSo, it appears that some Muslims suffer from Christian Spelling Disorder.
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Must be a full moon tonight.
I should point out that I can see the IPs of everyone who posts a comment. Manal and “George” have the same IP. It doesn’t bode well for you, “Manal” (if that is your real name), that you had to resort to sockpuppetry and wild (and hilarious) assumptions about me and my character to bolster your “argument” (such as it was).
Your blithering, incomprehensible ramblings have exactly nothing to do with reality.
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JB says:
February 17th, 2008 at 3:39 pm
Regardless of Manal’s apparent sockpuppetry, she seems not to have read much of ChickenGirl’s blog and is apparently unaware that ChickenGirl and most of her readers are not any more receptive to Christianity than to Islam. Had Manal bothered to read the blog posting in question, then she may have realised that ChickenGirl was talking about situations where laws and/or vigilante action are based primarily upon Sharia rather than sensible secular law. I have no doubt that Manal, who apparently lives in the Netherlands*, can make a choice about the extent of her religiosity and not fear attack; is it unreasonable to say that it is a violation of human rights when religious zealots fail to extend the same rights to women in other countries?
*This is based upon what ChickenGirl tells me about Manal’s IP address. I will let Manal correct me if she was using a proxy server.
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Manal says:
February 21st, 2008 at 4:43 pmshut your mouth watch me change my computer ip address and i dont live in d netherlands u dum shit yuur gnnaaa get killed gimme ur email so i cn sort yu u racist hoe!
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You know, there are people with nice white coats who have medications you can take for this sort of thing.
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Manal says:
February 21st, 2008 at 5:29 pmTO CASSIE:
I didnt quite get that hilariously funny joke of yours!! Please repeat that but in a understandable conflict.
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Manal says:
February 21st, 2008 at 5:30 pmchickengirl..? couldnt you find a more religious name such as: ilovegod
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Stopper says:
February 21st, 2008 at 5:32 pmManal’s last reply illustrates the blog post’s title very well. Islam is a religion of peace AND COLD-BLOODED MURDER.
You know there’s something inherently wrong with any religion that has to KILL PEOPLE who don’t agree with it.
PS: Manal, Islam is stupid, like all religions. You are stupid for believing it. I am a free American woman who is proud to say that Islam is a bad, horrible religion. Now I’m going to go eat some pork products, pet my dog, drink some wine, look at my tattoos, and watch TV, all things that your stupid Islam would never let me do.
When’s the last time you masturbated, Manal? I heard that the reason Islamists were so uptight was because they’re afraid to pleasure themselves. What a cruel, stupid religion of death you have there.
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Manal says:
February 21st, 2008 at 5:32 pmMuslim women dont just cover their hair (their body too) means not flashing your boobs at random men in the street which you find quite normal and not being considered as a slut. Did you know that mary covered up to…but as centuries went by, the photo of her was getting more showful and she ended up wearing trousers probably…aaaa the west really needs to stop boasting shall we!!
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Manal says:
February 21st, 2008 at 5:34 pmwe are allowed to watch tv auctually!! so get all your facts right you dingbat!! LOL did i ever forget to mention that we believe this life is a test which clearly explains why we are restricted from doing all the things you american can do both in this life ( and afterlife) how boring!! not much difference ehh..????
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Manal says:
February 21st, 2008 at 5:36 pmMuslims dont murder.. its just the taliban lovers who are with the Americans apparently..??? Islam means peace but some so called Muslims use Islam as terrorism..??? why… i dont know….maybe because they have nothing better to do with their lifes..?
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Manal says:
February 21st, 2008 at 5:40 pmcold blooded - murder is not part of islam you stereotype!! Dont judge all muslims because a bunch of freaks decided to blow themselves up thinking they are going to heaven when islam clearly states ”SUICIDE IS FORBIDDEN, IF DONE THEN YOU WILL ENJOY SOME CHAMPAGNE AND STARING AT YOUR TATTOOS ALL DAY”
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Manal, hon. Seriously. There are some really, really nice drugs for people with delusions like yours.
I’ve always thought it was kind of funny that the garment that you consider “modest” (a skirt) is the one that allows super-easy access to the goodies. One of the many reasons I feel more comfortable wearing “trousers”. (ZOMG TROUSERS! That’s what the Western Jezebels wear!!)
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Celt says:
February 21st, 2008 at 5:42 pm
I’m really confused. How is not liking a religion or it’s deity racist? Racism is about skin colour and ethnicity. Religion is about belief and worship.
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Manal says:
February 21st, 2008 at 5:46 pmAs ‘racism’ carries references to race-based prejudice, violence, or oppression, the term has varying and often hotly contested definitions. ‘Racialism’ is a related term intended to avoid these negative meanings. According to the Oxford English Dictionary, racism is a belief or ideology that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially to distinguish it as being either superior or inferior to another race or races. The Merriam-Webster’s Dictionary defines racism as a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race, and that it is also the prejudice based on such a belief.[1] The Macquarie Dictionary defines racism thus: the belief that human races have distinctive characteristics which determine their respective cultures, usually involving the idea that one’s own race is superior and has the right to rule or dominate others.
from wikipedia..
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Manal says:
February 21st, 2008 at 5:46 pmcassie has anyone offered for you to go shove your head down a loo..???
THANKKKKZZZZ IRAQI BARBIEEE
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Maybe you should have read that more carefully before you posted it, because it doesn’t say anything about religious differences qualifying as “racism”.
Valium?
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Manal says:
February 21st, 2008 at 5:55 pmmaking fun out of a religion is part of racistism..? do you really think throwing insults at someones religon with such a high population is seen as normal and not racist..? well think again
http://gladwell.typepad.com/gladwellcom/2006/12/defining_a_raci.html
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Manal says:
February 21st, 2008 at 5:57 pmcassie stop changing your name!!! you racist bitch lol hope you burn in hell…ill talk to you later because i am going to go pray
go to google and type muslim miracles and see how many things were found with the name ”ALLAH” on it. Ha shame its not the same for christians.
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Manal says:
February 21st, 2008 at 5:59 pmcassie, clearly you must have children to look after dont you? Im a kid here argueing with some lesbian who thinks the world came from a ”bang” all of a sudden and who believes we were all monkeys last century. HMMM islam does have a point there..?
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Manal, put down the wacky tobaccy for a second and you’ll notice that my name has not changed once. Celt, Stopper, Dave and JB are my friends.
You may not like it, but I have the right to criticize your religion, and criticize it I will. It does not make me a racist. It makes me someone who disagrees with you, and who apparently has a lot more respect for human life and human rights than you do.
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Dave says:
February 21st, 2008 at 6:09 pm
Aside from my own personal experience being, very happily, able to vouch for Cassie not being a lesbian . . . what exactly compelled you to accuse her of being one exactly one sentence after theorizing that she has children? Think about that for a moment. Also think about the “monkeys last century” comment.
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Unorganized says:
February 21st, 2008 at 6:13 pm
Dave, I’m not sure “thinking” is her strong suit.
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Celt says:
February 21st, 2008 at 6:16 pmManal, I assure you, I’m not Cassie. For a start, I live on a different continent.
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StarrySkunk says:
February 21st, 2008 at 6:42 pm
I dare anyone who thinks that Islam is a religion of peace that is being abused by the Taliban and terrorists to go up to those extremists and tell them that they are not true Muslims. I’m sure they’d object to that and make that claim about other Muslims who are not like them.
TV world isn’t the real world. TV America does not necessary correspond to the real America.
Thinking that life is a test for some afterlife purpose would be a waste with no afterlife. Better things could be done instead of wasting lifetimes based on lacking evidence.
If you don’t want to be stereotyped, don’t tell people to shove their heads down the loo. If I were a god, I’d not want to be represented by such people. Actually, I’d be too busy with the rest of the universe to pay attention to people who bow towards a tiny, originally pagan, building on a tiny rock many orders of magnitude smaller than just the observable universe, which is mostly too empty for us to live in.
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Ashaman says:
February 21st, 2008 at 6:43 pm
“who believes we were all monkeys last century”
Holy crap, that has to be one of the stupidest fucking statements I’ve ever seen. Not only is Islam a religion of intolerance and violence, it’s a religion of staggering ignorance.
Manal, a century is 100 years, the last one started in 1900 and ended in 1999. You’d have to be staggeringly stupid to suggest that human ancestry started then, even if you don’t accept evolution. The reality is that human ancestors and chimp ancestors diverged about 7 million years ago, and human ancestors and monkey ancestors diverged closer to 20 million years ago.
Either you don’t know anything about human ancestry, or you have no fucking clue about any date before you were born. I’m guessing it’s a mixture of both. Clearly, your education has been sadly lacking.
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Mr. Intransigent Atheist, Esq. says:
February 21st, 2008 at 8:50 pm
Holy fucking hell! Just dropped by from Sadly No and what do I find?
Manal is squatting here, vociferous, diatribical diarrhea running from his mouth about the non-existent moon-god Allah and his brigand/pedophile prophet Mohammed. How pathetic, a delusional, hairless ape who feels compelled to torment others about his insane beliefs.
Why don’t you let others believe or not believe whatever they want, Manal?
I know why, most, if not all, Moslems have a weird, obsessive-compulsive desire to be a TOTAL PAIN IN THE ASS to everyone they encounter.
I crouch, and shit into the open mouth of Allah.
Do have a good day Manal.
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*golf clap*
(psst, Manal is a girl.)
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Mr. Intransigent Atheist, Esq. says:
February 21st, 2008 at 9:30 pmOk Cassie - I stand corrected on Manal’s gender - thanks…
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Manal says:
February 22nd, 2008 at 5:10 amMr. Intransigent Atheist, Esq. says:
whats the point of heaven if this life will be exactly the same as heaven? I auctually dont you but why dont i let Mr. Intransigent Atheist, Esq answer that simple question. As you may not know taliban may be a muslim (in the name) but just because he decides to make people not watch tv and get married at two doesnt mean that all muslims do that. Here i am fifteen years old doing my gcse’s hoping to study biology , chemistry,arabic,and socialogy so that maybe i will succeed in becoming a pharmacist or later doctor. You guys are a bunch of losers who have nothing better to do than sit there behind a tv screen trying to act as if you not what your talking about!! Shouldnt you be petting your pet (my uncle has a pet,dont see why islam doesnt accept that),and staring at your tattoo like a little lowlife..??? Maybe its just we never achieved at high school and we got bullied which is why we take our anger out all on Islam. America if thats what you want (muslims to be out of your country) why dont you do the same for iraq??? Surely there must be a biological answer??? Maybe its because you country wasnt BLESSED with fuel and oil which is why in thirty years time you will crying for money to save your little country. The americans are the ones bombing iraq and they know it,along with taliban. They are only doing it because they dont want iraq to recover so that they can act as bodygaurds and secretly steal all of their money and fuel!! HAAAAAA quite a funny story isnt it? Im looking forward to all your responses.
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Manal says:
February 22nd, 2008 at 7:48 amIts really a shame to see for a fact the ignorance of the west especially americans. They are intentionally brain washed and it is intentionally removed from all their history books what Islam and muslims contributed to science and humanity. Since mathematics, physics, astronomy, medicine, optics, poetry and litarature were all products and inventions of the east from India to all Arabia, the west really is the dump student in this class. It is evident even to this day. Go to any university and school in all of the USA, the smartest and best performing students are always eastern and mideastern students, professors, sienteists, doctors, etc… Americans are always at the bottom of the barrel. THEY KNOW IT TOO. Now to go back to history, u should know that before Islam, women were treated like slaves by christians. Christians were killing each other all over europe for not converting into their own sects. Campains were sent to the middle-east to ROB them of thier west, to get a part of their knowledge and sicences and of course to destroy all evidence of this knowledge. This is the reason libraries and archives were always targeted during these wars. Even today with the latest Western war against Iraq, The first thing that was destroyed was the libraries and the museum. This is not a coencidence. It is all intentional. U need to know that the west has been involved in wars and occupations of weaker, smaller countries. They are conquorers by nature. And along the way they have killed millions and millions of innocent muslims. So dont talk about savagery and barbarism when it is the CORE and ONLY method of survival you poeple know. You are raised with the ideas of hatred, killing, and “You gotta do what ever it takes” to make sure your gallon of gas and pound of chicken stays affordable.
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Manal says:
February 22nd, 2008 at 7:49 amDAVE PLEASE STOP TALKING LOL.
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Manal says:
February 22nd, 2008 at 7:54 amcassie , didny your mummy teach you to respect other people even if you dont like them?? Maybe she didnt , which is clearly why you turned out to be a freak who blames all mistakes on Muslims. You Americans are terrorists yourself you know ( which is why every week university students are shot dead by a WHITE(american) suicide person). HMM doesnt that make us quite equal?? DONT SEE THE WORLD STEREOTYPING ALL AMERICANS DO YOU. Time i fix you up a little and teach you some manners your mother didnt teach you.
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Manal says:
February 22nd, 2008 at 7:57 amMr. Intransigent Atheist, Esq
your not so perfect are you. You have issues with spelling too, eg.moslem and koran, maybe you do it on purpose because your a racist.
AND CASSIE HERES WHAT RACIST MEANS
racist
adjective
1. based on racial intolerance; “racist remarks”
2. discriminatory especially on the basis of race or religion.from,http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/racist.
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It took a little while for my stats to inform me what Intransigent Atheist meant by “Just dropped by from Sadly No”… http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/1016.html
Hey, I’m famous! Well, not quite, that post is from 2004… but I don’t know whether to be relieved or concerned that our friend Manal is even more psycho than she seemed before!
Manal, the only reason you’re so convinced I’m a “racist” is that I had the nerve, the unmitigated gall to criticize your religion. I don’t like your religion, Manal. I think the world would be better off without it. I’ve seen what your religion does to the women under its charge… and the buses and buildings under our charge!
And before you say “terrorists aren’t real Muslims”, what are they being motivated by? They’re being brainwashed about how all Westerners are “White Devils” and deserve to die, and oh by the way, by blowing themselves up they’ll be earning themselves 72 perpetually-regenerating virgins in heaven.
You know, I’ve always wanted to ask: What do women get when they go to “heaven”? Anything? I’m pretty sure Muslim female hell is to have to be one of the virgins and have to be raped repeatedly (and painfully) by some crazed, blood-soaked lunatic who got there by murdering innocent civilians.
At any rate, you can call this a perversion of Islam, but the suicide bombers would disagree with you. As far as they are concerned, that is Islam. And, you know what? That makes those guys your problem. They belong to you. They are Muslims.
And you, Manal, have the nerve to come over here and accuse me of being a racist, when you have been foaming at the mouth with hatred for me and my people since you got here.
How is Manal a seething, hate-filled racist psycho? Let me count the ways:
here we gooo the west is being jelous again
Go to any university and see how a muslim is the brightest out of all the dumb blonds. Americans are freaks which is why they took over the native americans..poor people.
read the quran before you judge u dumb blonde.
Lol how could christians think god had a son without a wife you dumbshits!!! and plus hes invisible so wonder how that worked you bloody idiots!!
If you wanna meet up and fight heres my email
u dum shit yuur gnnaaa get killed gimme ur email so i cn sort yu u racist hoe!
so get all your facts right you dingbat!!
cassie has anyone offered for you to go shove your head down a loo..???
you racist bitch lol hope you burn in hell
you turned out to be a freak who blames all mistakes on Muslims. You Americans are terrorists yourself you know
Time i fix you up a little and teach you some manners your mother didnt teach you.If there is a hell, and a just and moral god, clearly you are the one who should be burning there. What the fuck is wrong with you that you have nothing better to do with your time than sit down in front of your computer, smoke some crack, and start firing off message after incomprehensible message threatening people with physical violence for no other reason than that they disagreed with you?
P.S. You might want to quit with this “I’m gonna beat you up” macho bullshit. I work out, and I have a low center of gravity. You, on the other hand, are just a scrawny, crack-smoking little girl.
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StarrySkunk says:
February 22nd, 2008 at 10:11 amYou think Americans don’t know about Muslim science and technology during the European Dark Ages? Yeah, they teach about that at school about Muslims and things like algebra and astronomy. The first book on solutions to linear and quadratic equation was written by Muhammad ibn Mūsā al-Khwārizmī, making him the father of algebra. The word algorithm comes from the Latin version of his name. Many names of stars are Arabic and here’s a list of them. I found this stuff in seconds on a ‘western’ site, so it’s not like they’re systemically censoring Muslim contributions.
It’s not like the western people took all of those Muslim developments and did nothing more. Are there any recent developments coming out of the Muslim world? The two great breakthroughs of the 20th century in physics, relativity and quantum mechanics, were developed by westerners with the initial fundamentals being done by Europeans. So it’s not like Americans take credit for everything.
“Go to any university and school in all of the USA, the smartest and best performing students are always eastern and mideastern students, professors, sienteists, doctors, etc… Americans are always at the bottom of the barrel.”
Wow, stereotyping of Asian and Middle Eastern students as the best and smartest. I have a friend from university who was from Hong Kong and we worked together on physics. I didn’t always know what to do and he didn’t know everything either. There were Asian students at my high school. Another person of European descendant and I still came out as first and second in class. At university, I knew more people from Asia, including two from India who weren’t the top students. Those two happened to be fundamental Christians with nutty ideas. I also knew someone from Iraq who converted from Islam to King-James-Only Christianity. He just replaced one set of nutty ideas with another set.
“You are raised with the ideas of hatred, killing, and “You gotta do what ever it takes” to make sure your gallon of gas and pound of chicken stays affordable.”
Not all western people are Crusaders bent on destruction of Muslims and Islam. We are not Dark Age Europeans. And how do you know Americans are raised to hate and desire to kill Muslims? Why was there this show on national TV about an innocent boy in Iraq getting scarred by bombing and getting medical treatment? Plenty of Americans think that the Iraq war never should have happened. Don’t see George W. Bush as representative of Americans. There are lots of jokes about how stupid he is.
Those Taliban and Al Qaeda people won’t like you calling them fake Muslims. At best, they’d call you a fake Muslim. At worst, they’d get rid of you and everyone else they call fake Muslims because they think they are the only true Muslims.
I’ve seen the sites of Islam miracles. Why are they all things that could happen naturally? Someone named Littlewood at Cambridge figured the rate at which we should see one-in-a-million event. If we count each second as an experience and are alert for eight hours each day, over 35 days, we’d experience 1,008,000 things. So we should expect about one one-in-a-million event about once a month. At this rate, I should average at about ten miracles a year. Yeah, I recall such things as opening a book at exactly the right place or seeing something like a cloud that looks just like someone.
Muslims are not the only ones who have miracles. Christians see things like the Virgin Mary or Jesus in toasts, in windows or in stains under an overpass. I also saw pictures from a Christian of crosses formed by tree branches with the sun behind them. I’d have an easy time finding many such things in the woods.
Other religions have their miracles too. People see miracles as supernatural because they don’t realize how often things like that can happen over a long time and don’t have the education to see how it can happen naturally. One Hindu miracle is holding a spoon of milk at an idol and having the milk disappear. It was tried with milk and food coloring and they found that it ended up on the statue under the spoon. Surface tension, which makes liquids like water stick together, was pulling the milk from the spoon, then the milk flowed down the surface of the statue. Another miracle in India is the ’sweet’ or fresh water in the sea by Mumbai. It turned out that monsoon rains had discharged from underground into the sea, forming a mass of fresh water. Fresh water is less dense than salt water, so it floats on top until it gets mixed in.
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AYAT says:
February 22nd, 2008 at 11:20 am
you need to grow up and get yourself a life. You are a racist because your heading was ” muslim doctors kill everyone” so i wonder what you call that.
STUPID BITCHHHHHHHH THE WORLD CAND BE BLESSED SO YU CAN GO FUK YUR MUM OKAY. -
Manal says:
February 22nd, 2008 at 11:24 amok so you have a point there - starryskunk, why dont you teach cassie and the other dude Mr. Intransigent Atheist, Esq what stereotyping a Religion as a whole than to judge them before you know everything about that Religion. I started getting rude because i searched Islam on google and there was a title ” muslim women doctors kill everyone”, isnt that Racistism. They decide to be racist then i would do the same to only make it fair.
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afg/iranian barbi3 says:
February 22nd, 2008 at 11:28 am
u dah fuk iz bein racist to muslimz
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afg/iranian barbi3 says:
February 22nd, 2008 at 11:30 amcassie u need a lyf dnt fuk abt tooo much cuz wun dai ur gna gt bangeed
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You might want to try actually reading that post. For starters, the title was “Female Muslim doctors are going to kill people.” And if you had read it, you would have noticed that I was complaining about the rash of female Muslim med students in England who refuse to properly wash their hands on religious grounds.
Not washing hands spreads superbugs.
Superbugs KILL PEOPLE.
Therefore, if female Muslim doctors refuse to wash their hands, they are going to kill people.
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Manal says:
February 22nd, 2008 at 11:33 amMuslim medical students are refusing to obey hygiene rules brought in to stop the spread of deadly superbugs, because they say it is against their religion.
Women training in several hospitals in England have raised objections to removing their arm coverings in theatre and to rolling up their sleeves when washing their hands, because it is regarded as immodest in Islam.
Universities and NHS trusts fear many more will refuse to co-operate with new Department of Health guidance, introduced this month, which stipulates that all doctors must be “bare below the elbow”.
The measure is deemed necessary to stop the spread of infections such as MRSA and Clostridium difficile, which have killed hundreds.
Okay. People, do you understand why doctors wash their hands? Because hospitals are filled with superbugs. If you are working in a hospital, your hands will get superbugs on them. And when you touch patients with your disgusting, unwashed hands, they get the superbugs, and then they DIE. Do you understand what that means? It means they STOP LIVING. They’re DEAD. And you KILLED THEM.
And, you know what? Bugs don’t care that you’re wearing sleeves on your arms. They’ll get on your arms, and they’ll get on the sleeves. That is why you have to ROLL UP your sleeves and WASH YOUR ARMS! If you’re too SELFISH to do that, then you have no business being a doctor. Deal with it.
Yes, I said “SELFISH”. You think that your stupid, asinine superstitions are more important than PEOPLE’S LIVES. Shame on you.
CASSIE YOU THOUGHT YOU COULD GET RUDE TO MUSLIMS LIKE IT WAS SIMPLE AND EVERYONE WOULD BE SCARED WITHOUT REPLYING. THAT ARTICLE OF YOURS IS A FAKE YOU LYING BITCH* ISLAM NEVER SAID DONT WASH YOUR HANDS YOU DUMB LIAR. WATCH YOUR TONGUE OTHERWISE IT MIGHT END UP BEING CAUGHT SOMEWHERE IT SHOULDNT BE.
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Manal says:
February 22nd, 2008 at 11:35 amAND IF YOUR A DOCTOR YOU CAN SHOW YOUR HANDS AS YOUR TRYNA HELP PEOPLE SO PLEASE DONT JUDGE MUSLIM DOCTORS BECAUSE YOU NEVER MADE IT TO THAT STAGE OF INTELLIGENCE IN YOUR LIFE.
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afg/iranian barbi3 says:
February 22nd, 2008 at 11:35 amcassie u dnt wana gt bangeddd am sure u dnt jus saying dnt be racist cuz u aint gna benfit nuttin how abt u go live on t v n say all dis don say it on stupid sytzzz wer no wun nowz u say it live den wana watch wa gna appen dah dai ppl will so find u jus grow uppp n shut up we aint gt nyfin against christianz so dnt c y u shulod av sumfin against us muslimz jus tke it all bak n regrettt now sukk out !!!
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StarrySkunk says:
February 22nd, 2008 at 11:35 amWhere is the thing about Muslim women doctors on this site? Is this about Muslim women who don’t want to clean themselves before treating people because they don’t want to be seen uncovered, thereby risking spreading germs to people they operate on? Why not just go into one of those one-person bathrooms to wash so nobody would see them?
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Manal says:
February 22nd, 2008 at 11:38 amYHHH BUT DIDNT YOU SEE THE WAY(CASSIE) WAS CALLING THEM SELFISH…PLEASE TELL HER TO HAVE RESPECT FOR OTHER PEOPLES BELIEFS. THESE DOCTORS JUST SEEM TO BE FAR MORE THAN RELIGIOUS WHICH IS WHY THEY WANT TO COVER THEIR WHOLE HAND. FOR EXAMPLE A DOCTOR CAN SEE MY HAIR EVEN IF HE IS A MAN BECAUSE HES A DOCTOR HE AINT GONNA BE INTERESTED IN MY HAIR UNLIKE OTHERMEN.
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Manal says:
February 22nd, 2008 at 11:40 amhttp://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=CHICKENGIRL+ISLAM&meta=
ChickenGirl.net » Blog Archive » Female Muslim doctors are going …ChickenGirl.net. Fear the penguins. … Recent Comments. JB on Islam is a religion of peace. And cold-blooded murder. Cassie on Islam is a religion of peace …
http://www.chickengirl.net/2008/02/05/female-muslim-doctors-are-going-to-kill-people/ - 25k - Cached - Similar pagesChickenGirl.netChickenGirl.net. “Get out of my chair, dillhole.” — A. A. Milne … Islam is at once the most and the least interesting of the world’s monotheisms. …
http://www.chickengirl.net/ - 39k - Cached - Similar pagesTHATS WHAT CAME UP IN THE SEARCH SO DONT PLEAD INNOCENT AS SOON AS PEOPLE START GETING INVOLVED.
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afg/iranian barbi3 says:
February 22nd, 2008 at 11:40 am
cassie liss no need to be racist aint gt anyfing nyc to sai den shut dah fuk up cuz u jusss gna gt bangeeeeed carry on buh dnt do it on deez shitty sytz wer nobody can do anyfin to u cum do it live i wana watch ya sai al disss liveee dah second ur gna be fukeeeddd we ant gt anyfing against u christianz soo lez kpp it dah wai jus shut ur mouth don let it run wun dai it gna gt ya into bre shitt buh if u wana c real fing cum n do it LIVE anywaiz hpe u gt ma point orr inshallah u will ayt 4 now jus sukk out!!
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Islam (by some people’s understanding) requires women to cover their arms. Some female Muslim medical students are interpreting this to mean that they are forbidden, for modesty reasons, to roll up their sleeves in order to properly wash their hands. That is dangerous and irresponsible, and you know what? I’m going to criticize that. I’m going to yell it from the rooftops.
You can’t stand it when people criticize your religion. Why is that, Manal? If you were really so certain you had it right, why would it bother you so much that I think you’ve got it all wrong? It bothers you so much, that you start foaming at the mouth and issuing death threats at the smallest provocation. You act like you think you’re in the fucking Mafia or something.
This is your “religion of peace”? Really?
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StarrySkunk says:
February 22nd, 2008 at 11:42 amOk, I found and read the post about Muslim women doctors not washing their hands. It’s so simple to go to an one-person bathrooms and lock the door so nobody would see them uncover their arms. But what about the germs on the sleeves? The Muslim women would roll down the sleeves to be covered up. So that means they need 1) a way to clean the sleeves too, 2) not roll down the sleeves until after treating the patients or 3) not bother being a doctor. If Islam did not exist, this problem won’t.
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afg/iranian barbi3 says:
February 22nd, 2008 at 11:43 amshuuppp y dah fuk u fyting 4 em u racist if der was such fing den dah hole world will sai sumfink dnt c ur problem n dis aint true n if u fink u can do betta WANA C U TRY!!!
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afg/iranian barbi3 says:
February 22nd, 2008 at 11:45 amDONT U EVEN FKIN GO ABT ISLAM NTO EXISTING CUZ U WILL BURN IN HELL DAS A FACT BUH DON GT ODRZ TO FOLLOW U BURN ALONE N JUS SHUPPPP U WANA SAI SUMFINK SAI IT LIVE!!! <<ONLI IF U DARWE TO
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Manal says:
February 22nd, 2008 at 11:47 amHunniii why dont we stop being so agressive to little children shall we? Maybe were teaching them words they shouldnt be learning? oh i forget you have no children because noeone was ever interested in marrying you. Awww poor babyy, anywaiiiz hun i love my Religion and My God therefor im gonna go and pray and make sure i dont sleep with anymen who i dont know which you find perfectly normal. Anywaiiiz gonna go have a shower and brush my hair and take pics and go eat a large bar of choc and eat some nice big ice cream. Oh god you mentioned eating pigs before, poor piggy didnt you use him as a pet in your backyard..? Anyways biatch see you later (oo wait your hiding behind a screen,haha i do karate if onlii i could kick you to hell where you can bitch all you like u dumbbb hoe).
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Manal says:
February 22nd, 2008 at 11:48 amok starryskunk why dont you be a doctor instead..? ooo im sorry you were to dumb…awwww welll maybe in heaven shalll we..?
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akhtar says:
February 22nd, 2008 at 11:49 am
hey cassie wut religion r u
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Manal says:
February 22nd, 2008 at 11:50 amyou told me before to watch what im saying about taliban being a fake muslim and how hes gonna kill me along with you cuz your getting rude to his religion. STARTREK DUDE I THOUGHT YOU WAAZZZ INTELLIGENT FOR A SEC.
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Manal says:
February 22nd, 2008 at 11:51 amakhtar what you doing here lol…?
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StarrySkunk says:
February 22nd, 2008 at 11:52 amHey what did you think of the things Manal said that Cassie collected:
How is Manal a seething, hate-filled racist psycho? Let me count the ways:
here we gooo the west is being jelous again
Go to any university and see how a muslim is the brightest out of all the dumb blonds. Americans are freaks which is why they took over the native americans..poor people.
read the quran before you judge u dumb blonde.
Lol how could christians think god had a son without a wife you dumbshits!!! and plus hes invisible so wonder how that worked you bloody idiots!!
If you wanna meet up and fight heres my email
u dum shit yuur gnnaaa get killed gimme ur email so i cn sort yu u racist hoe!
so get all your facts right you dingbat!!
cassie has anyone offered for you to go shove your head down a loo..???
you racist bitch lol hope you burn in hell
you turned out to be a freak who blames all mistakes on Muslims. You Americans are terrorists yourself you know
Time i fix you up a little and teach you some manners your mother didnt teach you.
This reminds me of a book I read that collected all of the verses in the Quran that said non-Muslims, including Christians and Jews are going to burn in Allah’s hell. Reading all of those verses together in one place made me sick.
How is criticism of Islam racist when Muslims are of more than one race?
By the way, there are Muslims in America and New York City is a diverse place, Muslims were affected by 9/11 and I won’t be surprised if there were Muslims who died in the WTC crashes, fires or collapses. And not all other Americans are Christians either.
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Manal and Iranian Barbie, I’ve been entirely too patient with you, and now I tire of dealing with you. Bye-bye.
Akhtar, I was raised Christian and am now an atheist.
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akhtar says:
February 22nd, 2008 at 11:58 amis der a reason y ur an athiest
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I am an atheist because everything I know about the world tells me that atheism makes more sense than believing in a magic sky-fairy.
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akhtar says:
February 22nd, 2008 at 12:03 pmhurrry man
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NO-NAME says:
February 22nd, 2008 at 12:04 pm
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NO-NAME says:
February 22nd, 2008 at 12:05 pmatheist IS SUM EXTRA RELIGION with udmb meanings
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NO-NAME, bye-bye to you too.
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Manal says:
February 22nd, 2008 at 12:14 pmcassie iv decided im sorry for being rude to you. I just realised hate is against my Religion and im serious. I didnt mean to say all those nasty comments and its not my business to go against your belief. I shall never return to this site therefore you”lll never hear of me again. Goodbye…………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..
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StarrySkunk says:
February 22nd, 2008 at 12:31 pm“DONT U EVEN FKIN GO ABT ISLAM NTO EXISTING CUZ U WILL BURN IN HELL DAS A FACT BUH DON GT ODRZ TO FOLLOW U BURN ALONE N JUS SHUPPPP U WANA SAI SUMFINK SAI IT LIVE!!! <<ONLI IF U DARWE TO”
Learn to read.
I didn’t say that Islam didn’t exist. I said that if Islam did not exist, the problem with women Muslim doctors won’t exist. There was a time when Islam did not exist and there most likely will be a time when it doesn’t. Or do you just not like to think about what the world would be like if Islam did not exist?If Islam and humanity continues to survive for long enough, it’d be the sun that ends Islam unless the Muslims manage to travel further away to Mars or beyond. From my readings of stuff like the book The Life and Death of Planet Earth, the sun, which had been heating up slowly over its lifetime, will accelerate the inorganic carbon cycle, lowering the atmospheric concentration of carbon dioxide to levels too low for modern plants, including C4 photosynthesis ones, to live. If plants don’t adapt to the much lower CO2 content, non-microbial life is going to go. That includes humans or our future descendants if we don’t kill ourselves first with crazy beliefs. If any of those people are Muslims or of a religion that developed from Islam, that religion will die out, unless people move away from the sun or use asteroids to do gravitational transfers of energy from Jupiter and Saturn to Earth to raise the orbit of the latter.
Belief systems like Islam contain and encourage certain memes, like those Quran verses that non-Muslims will burn in hell and that thing about getting 72 virgins after blowing up yourself and others. I hope Islam and any other belief systems like this don’t slow down humanity because it would take a lot of time to work on that energy exchange between Jupiter and Earth to delay or prevent our frying. I fear that crazy belief systems could encourage the hijacking of the asteroids used in such a project to have them crash into Earth instead of flying by for the energy transfer. In that way, if Islam, Christianity or their descendants survive for long enough, they could accelerate their end by messing with that project, enabling the sun to fry Earth.
The sad thing about all of this is that things like Islam and Christianity have zero valid evidence. From my reading of the Bible and Quran, they look just like they would if they were written by ancient peoples who didn’t know better about reality. If I were a god, I’d not have a such messed up holy text. Miracles are things that, as I had posted about before, pretty common for one person to see over time scales of months or a few years, or things that can be explained by studying what is going on without just saying goddidit.
So, if you are going to say that it’s a fact that I’m going to burn in hell, please show the evidence for the existence of that place or the evidence for the existence of the being named Allah who can hocus pocus such a place into existence. Don’t forget that there are Christians who think you are going to burn, based on the same amount of evidence you have.
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StarrySkunk says:
February 22nd, 2008 at 12:39 pmIf you were wondering, the estimates for when the sun destroys non-microbial life on Earth mentioned in the book I named above range from 500 million years to a billion years from now, well before the sun goes red giant five billion years from now. There better be no terrorists around to mess with the project to raise our orbit to give us a good leisure on life before the red giant stage.
I read above that Manal said that she was just 15. Once she goes to university, I hope she will open her eyes and learn about reality.
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Dave says:
February 22nd, 2008 at 1:38 pmWow — I go to work and all heck breaks loose on chickengirl.net? Cassie, what have you been putting in the water? And can I have a concentrated dose?
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everybodys equal when it comes to equal rights so who are you to tell me what to do you retarded slut. And i wear trousers auctually only an ABAYA when i got to mosque. I wear skinny jeans if thats how you like it, with some brown uggs. Ill show yuu a pic for proof.
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the post aint from 2004 you liar!
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http://a856.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/80/l_99afcf14edf5625100de68a1cdeb9c97.jpg
piic of me (one with the scarf) if you wanna find me!!! bye xxxx and my eyes are real,myfriends are edited
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OMG YOUURR ENGLISH AND YOU HAVE MYSPACE,I THOUGHT YOU WERE AMERICAN LOLZ….UMMM DO YU LIVE IN LONDON TOO..? HOPE NOT
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Stopper says:
February 22nd, 2008 at 7:15 pmIslam ain’t shit but hoes and tricks.
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JB says:
February 22nd, 2008 at 7:19 pmI have to express shock similar to that of Dave. Most shocking, however, is the extent to which Manal has apparently wasted time writing illiterate straw man arguments. ChickenGirl argued that she believes the practice of Islam to be destructive, especially in its extremist forms. She has also argued that all other religious practice, especially in the form of extremism, is destructive. Manal may wish to respond to criticism if she so desires, but she serves no purpose when she alleges that ChickenGirl is Christian or makes personal attacks or threats. It is not racist to be anti-religious and it is not racist to point to examples of how religious practice can be problematic.
Interestingly, Manal’s attacks against me are as illogical as they are uneducated. She accuses me of racism despite the fact that she has failed to identify a single racist statement from me. She also expresses anger at the fact that I refer to her Dutch IP even though I explicitly qualified my statement by inviting a simple correction if Manal is not in the Netherlands. (If Manal wishes to use her own circumstances as part of her argument, then her actual location is relevant and the least she could do is calmly identify the nation in which she resides.) Most oddly, she has issued a threat against me and then expects me to provide contact information so that she may engage in harassment and threats. I would like to emphasise that I do not consider Manal’s foolishness to be representative of any group of Muslims. Rather, I consider it representative of the tendencies of sociopaths.
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I have allowed some of Manal’s comments out of the spam queue for extra lulz.
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Ashaman says:
February 22nd, 2008 at 7:58 pm“atheist IS SUM EXTRA RELIGION with udmb meanings”
Wow, no-name, your ability to communicate clearly is amazing. You have a PhD in linguistics, I presume?
I should point out that calling atheism a religion is about as brilliant as calling ‘bald’ a hair color, or calling ‘healthy’ a disease. You can string those words together, but it does nothing but demonstrate how stupid you are.
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Merry says:
February 22nd, 2008 at 10:53 pm
Whoa…
Re #54. I am shocked and dismayed to learn that A.A. Milne said “Get out of my chair, dillhole.”
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Merry: it’s a reference to an episode of Friends where Joey has stolen Chandler’s chair and Chandler, in an attempt to get it back, tells him, “In the words of A. A. Milne: ‘Get out of my chair, dillhole!‘”
So, you need not worry, the kindly A. A. Milne is still kindly.
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Merry says:
February 22nd, 2008 at 11:07 pmWhew! Thanks for explaining that, Cassie.
(Note to self: watch more television. It’s embarrassing to have one’s ignorance showing. :oops:)
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Mr. Intransigent Atheist, Esq. says:
February 23rd, 2008 at 2:01 amMy dear friend Manal:
My, you certainly enjoy repeating yourself girl, I’ll say that for you. Obsessed is a word that describes you to a tee; you, like most Moslems, sound like a FUCKING BROKEN RECORD!
Briefly addressing some of your inane remarks to myself and others here:
There is no such thing as heaven, or hell for that matter.
God does not exist, period. God never did exist, and god never will exist, no matter how you may wish to bring one into being. GODS DON’T FUCKING EXIST!
Further Manal, when one dies, they are dead, period, no harps, no pitchforks. There is no afterlife, DEATH is THE ABSOLUTE END of our personal id, ego, and superego; such is the truth of our existence. Accept that, I do, I feel fortunate to have experienced this wonderful life, considering that most conceptions, be they of man or animal, die in utero, spat upon the ground or toilet as a shapeless clot of blood or sallow gray flesh. That is also a fact Manal, whether you want to admit it or not. If you think otherwise you are little more than a PATHETIC FOOL.
That said, in order for your minuscule ganglion of a brain to understand:
Allah does not exist and never did. Allah never will exist. Allah is a mythical, moon-god fantasy appropriated by the deluded Arab moron Mohammed, possibly due to his jealousy of the Jews, who had an equally farcical god called Elohim. Continuing, Allah’s “prophet” Mohammed was nothing but an epileptic brigand, murderer and pedophile. Mohammed was vermin, he had sex with children, he murdered people that disagreed with him, and was an all-around disgusting example of a human being.
Moving on, you grasp at straws when you attempt to call me on my spelling of the “Koran” and “Muslim”, for in America they are spelled that way, and are considered legitimate variations of transliterated Arabic, as much as “Quran” and “Muslim” are.
There are also many ways to spell “Mohammed”, e.g., “Muhammad”, Muhammed” “Mohammad” or even “Mehomet”, with countless other variations. Personally, I prefer to spell “Mohammed” as “Fucking Moronic Shithead” but many people may not understand my personal transliteration of your idiotic prophet’s name. So much for that feeble defense of your silly religion. Further, with regard to racism, you don’t have the slightest clue as to what “racism” means. Islam and Moslems are not a race, you feckless simpleton, it is a belief system adhered to by representatives of every race, Asian, Caucasian, and African. Why don’t you take the time to actually learn the meaning of a fucking word before you employ them in sentences?
Now, why don’t you stop evading the issue and attempt to explain the following to all that are here, Manal. Kindly pardon me as I borrow from my earlier post from Sadly No, it’s just too fucking good not to repeat, almost verbatim, with a few added touches.
Manal:
Why did Mohammed adopt a pagan moon god as the persona of Allah; why did he slaughter Jews at Medina; why did he dictate the “Satanic Verses” and then retract them; and why did he believe that he had to spread Islam by the sword? Why did this hateful, misogynous maniac have sex with a nine year old girl when he was 54? Why did he and his coterie of amoral pirates rape other women after murdering their husbands?
Further, after Mohammed’s death, why did his bloodthirsty Islamic minions maraud across Arabia, Egypt, Libya, and finally into Iberia, otherwise known as Spain, raping, plundering, and slaughtering all who resisted them? Why did Moslems murder Christians and Jews in Palestine and Turkey? Why were they compelled to murder innocent individuals that simply believed differently than they with regard to religion?
Why did Moslems do that, Manal?
Moving to today - Why do Moslems want to kill Salman Rushdie, and why did they murder Theo Van Gogh? Why did they murder Daniel Pearl? Why did they murder Nicolas Berg? Why did Moslems blow up buses in Britain? Why did they murder innocent Spaniards on a train? Why did Moslems blow up ancient artwork (the Buddhas) in Afghanistan? Why do they riot and burn up old Citroens in motherfucking France?
WHY DO YOU CHILDISH MOSLEM ASSHOLES RIOT OVER HILARIOUS CARTOONS OF YOUR SILLY FUCKING DEAD PEDOPHILE MOHAMMED?
I know exactly why Moslems behave as above - Moslems are deluded, intolerant, hate-filled ANIMALS who need to be dealt with as one does with a rabid dog.
Tell me Manal, alter my perception of maniacal Moslems - although I know that you haven’t the guts to answer me truthfully, for you are simply a shiftless, cowardly interloper leeching off British society where you and those like you have no business being at all.
A suggestion: If Islamic societies are so superior to Western societies, why in the fuck don’t you return to the country of your forebears and leave others alone? Why? I know the answer to that too, you are too damn lazy to work for a living, like your parents are, and prefer to be a parasite upon your host country that you have utterly no allegiance to.
Did I hit a nerve there, you evasive Moslem coward? Do you enjoy living in a government provided flat, sitting on you ass while on the dole?
As for contacting you via email, forget it, I prefer public discourse, so that all can plainly see you for the deluded, fanatical idiot that you are.
Again, I crouch, strain, fart once, and then shit into the open mouth of Allah. Afterward I wipe my asshole with pages torn from the Koran.
Kind regards to you Manal,
George Taylor
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akhtar says:
February 23rd, 2008 at 7:04 amWTFFFF HOW DER U SAY DATT, WHO R U I SWEAR BLAD I NEED TO LINK WIDDDDD U, i will knock all those teeh u have, u have no right to say that. ur proberly an athiest right? I will shit in ur mums mouth den i will get all the pther to shit in ur mouth, brv u der go say dat in a country like iraq, or iran dewi will cut u in pieces.U no not even iraq here in london harrow, south london or wembley, i swear to god u will get slaughtered
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akhtar says:
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akhtar says:
February 23rd, 2008 at 7:10 amMATE if u think we eat ur money in britain, go dubai and see hoe u lots eat our money, go saudi nd see how u lot eat our money, go iraq u lots takinn alll ov it tryna take over the county but it aint workin oh btw did u hear another 15 people of ur country died today in iraq newaiz go nigeria u lot eatin our money so we come to ur fukin country and eat ur money
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MUNEERAH & SEYHAN =] says:
February 23rd, 2008 at 7:28 am
AHAHAHA OMGGGOSSSHH are yu saying that only female muslims KILL PEOPLE? haha omg yur such a imbred shit i hate people like you, all yu do is stereotype and yu dnt even think twice bout wot your saying
i cud say abre bout atheist i cud easily just say that ‘ oo a atheist ddnt wash his hands coz he couldnt b botherd so therfore ALLL atheists are like that’ THATS JUST MY OPINION that I THINK is right and i ddnt think twice about that
god i swear read up about islam, i beg you think twice before yu say something or yu’ll get in to deep shit, this is racist. Research it a bit more for me mate then chat. Islam MEANS PEACE AND it is the most peacefullest religion and yu probably dnt believe in god coz its easier for yu, just think why are we here? jus to live and die, wot teh fuk wud b the point of dat.
mwaahh okhai i really hope yu get yur head straight bcoz yur heading teh rong way and yu get anywhere in life wid dat attitude coz BRUVVV YU LIVE WITH MUSLIMS ASWELL THEYRE IN THIS WORLD DEAL WID IT I DEAL WITH ATHEISTS BUT I DNT JUDGE OR DISS THEM DOO I, they choose to live life like that and i choose my way, which is Islam and i think it is the most beautifullest religion ever and muslims all orund the world go hajj every year IT is the LARGEST religious gathering, i wonder why? (sarcasm)
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MUNEERAH & SEYHAN =] says:
February 23rd, 2008 at 7:37 am“Islam is a religion of peace. And cold-blooded murder.”
and THAT NAME ^ i cud say “Christianity is a religion of peace. And cold-blooded murder.”
or maybe “Atheist is for peace. And cold-blooded murder.”
OR maybe you’ll like dis one ” Judaism is a religion of peace. And cold-blooded murder.”
or yu might prefer this “Hinduism is a religion of peace. And cold-blooded murder.”
or how bout ” Sainism is a religion of peace. And cold-blooded murder.”
waitt heres one ” Buddhaism is a religion of peace. And cold-blooded murder.”
o waitt yeh another ” Sciencism is a religion of peace. And cold-blooded murder.”
oo ANDD ” ANY religion is of peace. And cold-blooded murder. ”this is a easier defnition for you lot to understand what they are trying to tell you. You could say taht about any religion, sorry if i ddnt out all the religions but yu get my drift . im not trying to affend yu but GOD that title affends everyone even if tehyre not muslim and i personally think a little child came up with that because it clearly DOES NTO MAKE SENSE
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MUNEERAH & SEYHAN =] says:
February 23rd, 2008 at 7:41 amINTRODUCTION
The following story occurred on the Internet through one of the chat programs (Freetel) in January 1999. It is a real dialogue between a Christian and a Muslim. The story centers on Derek’s realization of today’s Christianity and his subsequent conversion to lslam. This Christian-Muslim dialogue has been edited for readability and for the clarity of its message.
ABDULLAH: Hello there! How are you man?
DEREK: Hello! Well, how are you?
ABDULLAH: I’m fine and you?
DEREK: I’m fine thanks.
ABDULLAH: Where are you from?
DEREK: I’m from L.A. (Los Angeles).
ABDULLAH: The land of Hollywood!
DEREK: Well that’s right. Have you ever been to L.A.?
ABDULLAH: No, never. Why are you calling yourself the Black Magic?
DEREK: It’s just a nickname, man!
ABDULLAH: I see.
DEREK: Where are you from? Are you an Arab?
ABDULLAH: Yes, I am from Saudi Arabia but I’m in Qatar now. What is your name?
DEREK: My name is Derek. What’s your name?
ABDULLAH: My name is Abdullah.
DEREK: What does Abdullah mean?
ABDULLAH: Abdullah means the servant of Allah and it is the function of each individual on the face of the earth to serve llah according to what Allah wants from us. By the way, Allah is the proper name of God.
DEREK: How do we know what God or Allah wants from us?
ABDULLAH: All of this is outlined in the Qur’an and the Sunnah (Ways of Prophet Muhammad; his sayings, actions and aprovals). These are the two major sources of guidance in lslam. Could you please tell me more about yourself? How ol are you?
DEREK: I am 19 years old, black and very much interested in knowing more about lslam. First of all, what should a person do or believe in to become a Muslim?
ABDULLAH: Very easy, you just say that there is no god worthy of worship but Allah and Muhammad is His Messenger, and you become Muslim,
DEREK: You mean Muhammad is his apostle? But a a Christian or non-Muslim, this sentence is not enough to make it clear to me.
ABDULLAH: Ok Allah sent Muhammad as His last Prophet and Messenger and revealed the Qur’an to him as the final revelation to mankind. Allah said that He perfected His religion and called it lslam (see Qur’an 5:3). Islam means peaceful submission to the Will of Allah.
DEREK: I see.
ABDULLAH: Yes, and unfortunately most Christians don’t know or they deny that the coming of Prophet Muhammad is foretold in their scriptures (See Deuternomy 18:18; 21: 21; Psalms 1 18:22-23; Isiah 42:1-13; Habakuk 3:3-4; Matthew 21:42-43; John 14:12-17,15:26,27; 1:5-16). Muslim theologians have stated that the person who is described by Jesus to come after him (in the above verses) is Muhammed (peace be upon him).
DEREK: OK Fine, but why was there a need for another prophet after Jesus and another revelation after the Bible?
ABDULLAH: All of the Prophets came to teach their peoples the Oneness of God. In the case of Jesus, he was only sent as a Messenger to the lost sheep of the house of Israel (see Matt. 15:24). What happened was that all of these prophets were not well received by the majority of the people. For instance, they started tampering with the teachings of Moses and Jesus, peace be upon them (see Qur’an 2:79). That is why Allah sent Muhammad with the last Message, (i.e., the Qur’an), to bring all of mankind back to the belief in and worship of One God, without partners or intermediaries.
DEREK: Is the Qur’an similar to the Bible? I mean, what is it composed of?
ABDULLAH: The Qur’an came as the last code emphasizing the same pure monotheistic teachings of Jesus peace be upon him, defending all the previous pure teachings of monotheistic beliefs and clarifying who Jesus was and who his mother was, showing that they were no more than great people.
DEREK: OK then, how-can we be sure that the Qur’an has remained the same since the time of Prophet Muhammad?
ABDULLAH: Allah Himself has guaranteed that He would guard the Qur’an from corruption (see Qur’an 15:9). Hence, the real and pure words of Allah are found in the Qur’an, which was revealed in Arabic, the language of Mohammed’s people. Since then, not an iota has changed. This is unlike what has happened in the other religions. For example, if you look at the Bible, you find a lot of versions; the name Bible itself is indicative of those changes because Bible means a collection of books from different writers.
DEREK: But didn’t God call it the Bible?
ABDULLAH: God calls the Scripture revealed to Jesus “Injeel” in the Qur’an for which the closest name in the Bible would be the word Gospel. The Bible was written may years after the time of Jesus in a language that was alien to Jesus; it was Latin Vulgate, a language that he never spoke. Isn’t this strange? Interestingly, most of what was written in the New Testament was authored by Paul, who, according to James, the brother of Jesus in the Bible, had a polluted mind because he changed and contradicted most of the teachings of Jesus.
DEREK: I think you know more about Christianity than the Pope does.
ABDULLAH: You are wrong by saying that I know more than the Pope. I have simply investigated the Bible with an inquiring mind, which is something that all Christians should do.
DEREK: Is there any English version of the Holy Qur’an?
ABDULLAH: There are many translations of the meanings of the Qur’an.
The Qur’an was revealed in Arabic which means that the words of ALLAH are in Arabic. The translations are the words of human beings relating to the meanings of the Qur’an to the non-Arabic speaking masses.
DEREK: How does the Qur’an define God to mankind or how does the Muslim perceive God?
ABDULLAH: GOD is the One and Only True GOD, and the Creator of all. He does not beget nor is He begotten. He is unlike His creation in every respect. He is the All-knowing, The Powerful, The Merciful, The Irresistible, and The King of kings.
DEREK: But it is somehow difficult for me to perceive God as being the same as His creatures.
ABDULLAH: You are absolutely right to have difficulty perceiving this because human beings have a limited capacity. This is why ALLAH sent revelations to His Prophets and Messengers to tell us who He is. So if you want to know who God is, just read the Qur’an.
DEREK: Christians believe that Jesus was sent for the salvation of all mankind. If this is not true, then the foundation of Christianity is faulty. Right? What do you think?
ABDULLAH: That’s correct. The Christians of today are following what Paul taught and also tend to follow what the priests tell them to do instead of following what Jesus said.
DEREK: Kindly explain the concept of salvation through the crucifixion of Jesus.
ABDULLAH: In Christianity, the Doctrine of Original Sin is the reason that there is a need for salvation through Jesus’ crucifixion. However, this doctrine was invented by Paul and it is strongly negated in the Old Testament (see Ezekial 18:20, Jeremiah 31:30, Deut. 24:16). This doctrine is an attempt to escape the responsibility of righteousness with the belief that punishment is given to someone else to release us from our burden of sins (see Ephesians 1:7, Romans 4:25, 10:9, Corinthians 15:21) In the Qur’an, every soul is responsible for its own deeds, good or bad (see 74:38,41:46, 3:25, 6:154).
DEREK: What about the crucifixion itself?
ABDULLAH: The Bible says Jesus cried out in a loud voice beseeching God for help on the cross: “My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?” (Matt. 27:46) Does that sound like Jesus to you?
DEREK: No, then what about Jesus’ appearance to his disciples after the crucifixion?
ABDULLAH: Jesus didn’t die on the cross nor was he resurrected. If he were resurrected, then he would have come to his disciples in a spiritual body. As shown in Luke 24:36-43, he met them with his physical body after the event of his alleged crucifixion. In the Qur’an, it says that Jesus was not crucified, but it was someone else who was made to look like him (see 4:157,158).
DEREK: How did the story of the crucifixion of Jesus get into the Bible then?
ABDULLAH: Once again, Paul was responsible (see Timothy 2:8 and Romans 5:10).
DEREK: Well, I, very deep in my heart, believe that God can never look like his creation nor does he do what they do. What I believe is that God is the perfect one who is very much different from everything we see or touch. In other words, I think the writer can never look like his book.
ABDULLAH: You are right. There is nothing comparable to Allah (see Qur’an 112:4). The prophets came with a very clear message to worship God alone, without any partners or intercessors.
However, Paul took pagan beliefs and practices from the Romans and mixed them with the teachings of Jesus. Consequently, Paul was mostly responsible for elevating Jesus to the status of Son of God (see Acts 9:20) and God.
DEREK: Yes. Now I remember. The first Commandment is, ” Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God is One Lord.”
ABDULLAH: You’re right. That’s in Mark 12:29. Moreover, the Qur’an confirms that God is One: “Say He is Allah, the One and Only (God).” (Qur’an 112:1)
DEREK: What you are saying makes perfect sense. This is just incredible! You mean that for almost 2000 years what the Christians have been following is wrong?
ABDULLAH: Yes, especially their misunderstanding of who Jesus was.
DEREK: Oh my God! I’ve been deceived! Really, I feel religiously raped. I have been fooled simply because I followed blindly the religion that I was born with and didn’t take care to investigate it thoroughly. But still inside me there is something holding me back from accepting lslam, even though lslam is clearly the True Religion.
ABDULLAH: Your last comment shows that you are a Muslim not a Christian and if you really love God and His Messenger Jesus, you will follow lslam and Prophet Muhammad. Break this barrier inside you and come back to the way of your ancestors. You are now free because you are looking for the Truth and our great prophet Jesus told us that we should look for the Truth and the Truth will set us free. So, you will be a free man as soon as you accept It. Be strong enough to accept lslam as the Truth, without any hesitation on your part and you will taste real freedom and real happiness that you have never tasted before.
DEREK: Frankly, I am concerned about the negative way lslam and Muslims are shown in the media. In the West, there is a stigma attached to being a Muslim and I’m not sure I’m ready to live with that stigma.
ABDULLAH: This is why I have chosen to tell people about the right picture of lslam.
DEREK: Then, what is the right picture of lslam?
ABDULLAH: The right picture of lslam is conveyed in the Qur’an, which is exemplified by Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him. The reality is that it is not fair to judge a religion by the actions of its followers alone because there are good and bad followers in every religion. The correct thing to do is to judge a religion by its documented revelation from God and the prophet who brought that revelation.
DEREK: I see. I agree with you, but I’m still concerned about the reaction of my family and friends if they know that I am a Muslim.
ABDULLAH: On Judgement Day, no one will be able to help you, not even your father, mother or any of your friends (see Qur’an 31:33). So, if you believe that lslam is the True religion, you should embrace it and live your life to please the One Who created you. Be an illuminating torch for them. Do not delay your coming to lslam. If you die before becoming a Muslim, then it’s too late (see Qur’an 2:132, 3:102, 3:85). So grab this opportunity now. You can only remedy this pain inside you by becoming a Muslim and being able in the future, God willing, to come and perform pilgrimage (Hajj).
DEREK: You are very wise man, I want to say that when I sometimes see on the satellite, especially in the season of Hajj, people of different colors and different races sitting side by side and praying to God, I feel pain deep inside my heart and I feel something urging me to talk with someone to know more about that great religion that can gather all the races in the same place. Thanks to you, I have found that person. So please help me become a Muslim!
ABDULLAH: Brother let us take it step by step. First, enter lslam by saying: I BEAR WITNESS THAT THERE IS NO GOD WORTHY OF WORSHIP EXCEPT ALLAH. AND I BEAR WITNESS THAT MUHAMMAD IS HIS SERVANT AND MESSENGER. I BEAR WITNESS THAT JESUS IS HIS PROPHET AND MESSENGER. Let us say this again, I BEAR WITNESS THAT THERE IS NO GOD WORTHY OF WORSHIP EXCEPT ALLAH AND I BEAR WITNESS THAT MUHAMMAD IS HIS SERVANT AND MESSENGER. I BEAR WITNESS THAT JESUS IS HIS PROPHET AND MESSENGERS. I BEAR WITNESS THAT JESUS IS HIS PROPHET AND MESSENGER.
DEREK: I BEAR WITNESS THAT THERE IS NO GOD WORTHY OF WORSHIP EXCEPT ALLAH. I BEAR WITNESS THAT MUHAMMAD IS HIS SERVANT AND LAST MESSENGER. I BEAR WITNESS THAT EISA IS HIS SERVANT AND MESSENGER.
ABDULLAH: By the way, Jesus’ name is not Jesus. It is a latinized name. His real name is Eisa. Now you will say the same thing in Arabic, the language of the Qur’an. I will transliterate for you. ASH’HADU AN LA’ILAHA ILLA ALLAH WAASH’HADU ANNA MUHAMMMADAN RASOOLULLAH WA ASH’HADU ANNA EISA ABDULLAHI WA RASOOLUHU.
DEREK: ASHADU AN LA ILAHA ILLALLAH WA ASHADU ANNA MUHAMMADAN RASULULLAH WA ASHADU ANNA EISA ABDULLAH1 WA RASOOLUHU.
ABDULLAH: Brother, say ALLAH is the greatest because you are a Muslim now. You are not a Christian anymore. Your are in the House of lslam. If I were with you, I would hug you as my brother in lslam. How do you feel now? A burden has been removed from you and you feel like you are so light, isn’t this right?
DEREK: If you were with me now, you would have seen my tears reaching my neck. You are a great brother. I feel that I have just come to life, This is exactly how I feel from now. I don’t have to listen the silly words of the priests in the church, who knowingly or unknowingly lead people astray. I hope to be a good servant of ALLAH.
ABDULLAH: You know what came out of you was disbelief and it was replaced by belief. You are so clean now, because when someone embraces Islam sincerely, Allah forgives all of his past sins. So, go to the Islamic center that has Muslims from all over the world and announce your lslam there, and continue to learn more about lslam from them. In addition, find a book on prayer in lslam and practice it. This is essential. Now after you are through with me, you must take a shower to purify yourself from previous wrong beliefs. Remember to stay away from bad company and be with righteous Muslim people. Also, beware of those so-called Muslims who call to nationalistic ideas or racial thoughts, which are rejected in lslam. I love you as a brother in lslam and I hope one day I will see you and hear your voice.
DEREK: I will for sure do what you have asked. And tomorrow I will go to the Islamic center. Thank you for showing me the Truth. I will do my best to meet people who know about lslam for sure. May God help you guide more and more people to the true word of God. There is no God but ALLAH and Muhammad is his Apostle… Well it is as difficult for me as it is for you to leave you.
ABDULLAH: Well brother, you will not leave me for a long time. I will soon be with you through my supplications. God willing. Pray for me, brother.
DEREK: Well, I thank you, I love you although I do not know you yet. But it is enough for me to remember that one day, a very dear man has picked me up from the mud of life. Please teach me another Islamic word in Arabic so as to make use of it in the Islamic center.
ABDULLAH: Assalamu Alaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatu and Astaghfirullah.
DEREK: What do they mean?
ABDULLAH: May the Peace, Mercy and Blessings of Allah be upon you. This is used as a greeting to all Muslims. The last word means, Allah forgive me. Well, I have to leave you now but be sure it will not be for long.
DEREK: Assalamu Alaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatu and Astaghfirullah for being astray from the Truth all those years. May God bless you. You have occupied a great place in my heart and I will never forget you. Bye and talk to you later. Your brother in lslam, Derek, but I will call myself Eisa from now on.
ABDULLAH: OK Eisa. I will leave you some final words of inspiration. Certainly, the ultimate goal of every individual is to be in Paradise forever. This reward of Paradise is too great to not have a price. That price is true faith, which is proven obedience to Allah and following the Sunnah of Prophet Mohammed (pbuh). THIS IS THE ROAD TO PARADISE. Let’s stay in touch! Assalamu Alaikum!
DEREK: O.K. Assalamu Alaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatu.
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Manal says:
February 23rd, 2008 at 8:24 amTo Mr. Intransigent thiest,
why are you so vexed about Muhammed and so in love with the Jews…??? Lol you clearly havnt read the Quran probably or maybe (you got it translated wrong cuz you cant read Arabic), which is why you keep saying that Muhammed(peace be upon him) fucked a nine year old. Im not sure thats quite true but he clearly wanted for her to be old enough until he thought it was right to marry her you dumb idiot! If your so cleaver why dont you go do all the horrible things in my Gods mouth??? Oh i forgot you cant because your so damn weak!! Lol funny how people get so mouthy behind a computer screen but get shook when it comes to reality. I might spend a good week in hell , probably cuz your making me swear at your little people so much but at least ill see what Heaven is eventually for believing in God. You however happen to be in hell forever and forever and ever , I GIVE YOU MY HEART DOOM DOOM (LOL DAATS A SONG). Hehe you alsways have the same thing to say.
OI MR ADIQUIAT,THIEST,WHATEVER YOUR NAME IS (WHY DONT YOU WRITE YOUR REAL NAME YOU PUSSY)
I have a qeustion too,
you know if you were seconds away from dying and you saw God and then believed in him, did you know that you will still not be forgiven? Ha well say d world will be over all of a sudden,who will you be praying for?? Will you be crying for mummy. and if your not scared of death,God help you!
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Manal says:
February 23rd, 2008 at 8:37 amcassie , reading through your little website, you really seem to have hate against Islam. And thanks for answering your own qeustion which was ( us westerns wear trousers,why dont you?) Umm you answered it by using information from my myspace page but thankfully i blocked you_____ zoom!!. a BIT LIKE WHEN YOU BLOCKED ME YESTERDAY CUZ YOU COULDNT TAKE HOW RUDE I WAZ GETTING TO YOU. WOW THE WORLD IS AGAINST YOU NOW,INCLUDING YOUR OWN PEOPLE.
– Merry says:
February 22nd, 2008 at 10:53 pm
Whoa…Re #54. I am shocked and dismayed to learn that A.A. Milne said “Get out of my chair, dillhole.”
Cassie says:
February 22nd, 2008 at 10:59 pm
Merry: it’s a reference to an episode of Friends where Joey has stolen Chandler’s chair and Chandler, in an attempt to get it back, tells him, “In the words of A. A. Milne: ‘Get out of my chair, dillhole!‘”So, you need not worry, the kindly A. A. Milne is still kindly.
funny how you twist your little friends around your finger like your some big fairy queen. LOLZ KMT YOU REALLY NEED A NEW WEBSITE LAYOUT CUZ ITS SO PLAIN AND BORING TO LOOK AT. HOW ABOUT HI IM RACIST,I HATE MUSLIMS!! OO YOU KNOW THE STORY YOU WROTE ABOUT, HOW THE TEDDYBEAR WAS CALLED MUHAMMED. I WAS QUITE SHOCKED TO HEAR THAT CUZ ITS ONLY A NAME AND IM SURE SUDAN WAS NOT WILLING THE TEACHER TO TEACH. YOU SEE THIS KINDA STUFF PUTS MUSLIMS DOWN,WHEN REALLY IT ISNT LIKE THAT. YOUR A RACIST AND YOU KNOW IT. IN DICTIONARY.COM,TYPING RACIST CLEARLY EXPLAINS IT COULD BE TREATING SOMEONE DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE OF THEIR ORIGIN,RELIGION,OR RACE AND THAT CLEARLY MEANS STEREOTYPING AND DISCRIMINATING A PERSONS BELIEF. WHY DONT YOU JUST GO SUCK ON SOME NICE VODKA, GO SHAG YOUR HAIRY FAT AGAIN BOYFRIEND AND THEN COME POKING YUR FAT NOSE INTO PEOPLES BUSINESS. I DARE YOU TO MAKE A VIDEO ON YOUTUBE SAYING I HATE MUSLIMS!! AND THEN SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL BE ASHAMED TO SEE AN ATHIEST WHO SHOULD BE AGAINST ALL RELGIONS BUT CLEARLY CHOOSES ISLAM BECAUSE THEY DONT AGREE WITH THEIR BELIEF,IF YOU DIDNT WOULDNT YOU BE A CHRISTIAN BY ME JUST HOW YOU WERE BOUGHT UP..??? OORR MAYBE ITS BECAUSE ATHIESM GIVES YOU A REASON TO BE AGAINST MUSLIMS ONLY!!
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Manal, I allowed out of moderation those few comments where you were at least somewhat able to form complete sentences.
Do your mommy and daddy know you’ve been spending all day at your computer furiously pounding your keyboard and making death threats to someone who never did anything to you? Does your imam?
Would they be proud of the way you’re defending your religion of “peace”?
I’ve primarily been writing about stupid things Muslims do because, you know what? You guys have been doing a hell of a lot of stupid things, and this is my website, and I will write about whatever I damn well please.
I don’t think I’ll ever cease to be amazed at how bloodthirsty you are. You and your little friends are doing absolutely nothing
February 8th, 2008 at 5:24 pm
In other news, Ron Paul stands a chance of winning the election, the Vikings had a perfect season, and the first fleet of pigs took off from O’Hare this morning. Details at 11.